X2 3800+

[MrPickins]

I have no idea whether or not this is a good MaxTCase or not.

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[jcy0001]

That must be good coz its definetly better than mine:) unless mine really sucks
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2500.82 (250.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83

[The Coolest]

67C is higher than average I believe. The highest I've seen it go is 71C on some chips, they were also some crazy clockers.

[4Qman]

Not sure if this is good for a E-4 Stepping.

[The Coolest]

That is a decent TCaseMax (This is the correct term, I've also changed the name of the program to fix that mistake I've made).
Unless you have PC2700 RAM, why would you run your RAM at a divider?

[4Qman]

Yeah ive had a major epic with my ram which all ill say is that its not alive
after a few too many volts.lol

Im using 2x512PC3200 and 2x256Mb PC2700, all old stuff which i had spare untill my OCZ PC4800 TCCD Plats and 2x512 Mushkin Redline Extreme arive.

Then ill just be troubled with what ram to actually use.

Ive had this 3800X2 at 2.7Ghz Dual Prime 12Hr+ Stable. I wasnt too sure how it compared to other E-4 Manchester core as i noticed the Toledo had a higher MaxTCase.

[masterallen]

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.14
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2200.14 (220.01 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C
TDP: 59.4 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83

[Guest]

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.14
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2010.00 (201.00 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 53.1 Watts


In simple terms, what does this mean in terms of overclocking? I read the description a few times and I still am not sure I understand the correlation between or the definitions of TCaseMax and TDP with respect to overclocking.

[Michael Malis]

If you take the thermal rating of the CPU (TCaseMax) and subtract the ambient temperature, you get the temperature delta between the chip at its highest temperature rating and the air temperature. Then you divide that delta by the thermal resistance of the case to ambient in order to get the TDP. The TDP is then the highest power you can maintain with that particular chip's thermal resistance with a particular ambient temperature and that chip's particular TCaseMax. Thermal power is proportional to clock speed.

TDP = (TCaseMax - Ambient) / Thermal Resistance

So, if TCaseMax goes up, TDP goes up, and clock speeds can go up.
Also, if either ambient temperature or thermal resistance go down, TDP goes up and thus also clock speed may increase.

For anyone who knows more about this than me, feel free to correct anything I have misinterpreted as this is the first time I have seen any of this stuff.

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.14
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2010.00 (201.00 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 53.1 Watts

[mp]

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2004.62 (200.46 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C

[ting]

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2500.14 (250.01 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 71.9 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83




So this result means that this chip is a good overclokker then?

[The Coolest]

Yup, it should be pretty good

[sina]

how about this??your comment, please!!!

[The Coolest]

That's not bad at all, but I'm sure you can go higher

[unknown]

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2600.29 (260.03 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83

)))) with aircooling

[davidca96]

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2600.05 (260.01 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83

[davidca96]

Oops sorry, was with the older version, heres 1.18:

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2600.02 (260.00 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 71.9 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83

[Pingo68]

Hi.

Here's mine:

[davidca96]

Great OC pingo

[Pingo68]

Great OC pingo

Thanks

I use a AsRock 939SLI-eSATA2 mobo on this processor. But max vcore on this mobo are low, only 1.4v. Maybe I'll have to buy a new mobo, ie. DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULTRA-D, because I need more vcore for higher clock

[The Coolest]

It is possible that there is an easy mod for the mobo that will get you upto 1.5 - 1.55v
so search google for a "vmod for AsRock 939SLI-eSATA2" or something similar

[dropadrop]

[quote]
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2250.00 (250.00 x 9.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 67C
TDP: 78.1 Watts
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Seems this would have good overclocking potential, but the problem is it runs fairly hot. It's prime stable (8 hours) up to 2550 with stock vcore, but 2600 fails the other core.

For my configuration I would have prefered something cooler, my day to day speed is 9*250 with 1.2 vcore.

[Guest]

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2499.99 (250.00 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83

Runs @ 52 C full load (stock cooler ), 1,375 V, ASUS Q-FAN @ 52 C, posted @ 2700 mhz.

[BGT]

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2010.30 (201.03 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.300v
Maximum Case Temperature = 69C
TDP: 84.4 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83

[Guest]

AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------

CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2400.14 (240.01 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts

Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at: http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83