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RC5 temp reading okay RC6 not so much..

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Using the Core Temp RC5 standalone temp readings as they have been. Using Core Temp RC6 standalone temp readings 0deg C. I installed the RC6 full product last night and if I remember correctly it was working okay upon install. I noticed today 0deg C reading. I uninstalled and got the standalone and it is reading 0deg C. I have made sure my BIOS is still the same. A10-5800K on Gigabyte F2A85X-UP4 using Windows 8 with BOINC running Primegrid at 85% CPU usage.

Update. To be sure I had not changed stuff inadvertently I did a System Restore back a few days but to not avail. I just downloaded the RC6 standalone and am getting 0deg C under load. RC5 still working okay.

Update 2. I noticed that RC6 is also not tracking the core frequency or VID changes as the load varies. RC5 tracks okay.

Update 3. Oddly enough RC6 is now tracking the core frequency and VID changes okay. I guess I did not give it enough time. Still no temperature reading.

Update 4. RC6 seems to have some odd issues with the core frequency and VID readings. I opened RC6 and read (90.38x40) as the max frequency under load. I closed it and opened RC5 and it gave the accurate reading of (100.06x40) at max frequency under load. I guess cool&quiet is causing the frequencies and VID levels to vary with the load. RC5 still crashes occasionally and unfortunately that hammers my work in BOINC..ugghh.

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Another thing I noticed about RC6 is on the remote monitor the multiplier part of the frequency information is not making it the phone. I am getting (99.86 X 0) instead of the multiplier. The actual frequency itself is displaying okay. All frequency information is display correctly on the RC6 desktop app display.

This is on an Intel system where all of the remote monitor works okay with RC5

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I'm currently working on some things you have mentioned.
Temperature and incorrect frequency should be fixed.
A new version of the CTM will be released sometime soon as well, with a fix to the version compatibility issue.
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So is there a release version with the fixed issues available? Just checking..

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Not yet. Since I have an actual system at hand, I want to make sure there are no more unexpected issues with the next release on these CPUs.
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AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (True Spirit 140 Direct) / Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty X470 / EVO 970 500GB + WD Blue 250GB + HDD / GPU: Dell RX 570 4GB / Mem: 2x16GB DDR4-3200 G.Skill 32GTZKW TridentZ - 32GB total / PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W
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Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.3GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / 2x Inland Pro 120GB + HDDs / GPU: ATi Mach64 VT2 / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 8GBXL RipJawsX - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W.
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I have been running an E8400 at 3.6GHz for some time and the temps for both cores have always been around the 30°C mark. I increased this to 3.8GHz by increasing FSB and the CPU core voltage. Temperatures were still around the same. Going up to 4GHz with an FSB of 445 the temps went to 63 and 65°C. I checked the info in the BIOS and it reported the CPU at 35°C. I put the overclock back to standard (3.0GHz) and the temps were still in the 60's. I reseated the ASUS Silent Square heatsink with some Arctic MX-2 and tried again. Temps still in the 60's according to Core Temp RC6. I uninstalled Core Temp, put the overclock back to 4GHz, reinstalled Core Temp and you can see the results here.
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Re: RC5 temp reading okay RC6 not so much..

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Ive got the same problem as the OP. I'm using an a6-5400k with a msi a88x-g43 board.

The only one I've seen work 'reasonably well'(only under load) for cores is aida64.

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Is the same problem with the cores attributed to the whacky temps reported by the gpu also? or should i use the temps in gpu-z for that(aux in aida64/tmpin02 in hwmonitor?

Any idea what the package temp in hwmonitor is?

Thanks!

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I'm having same issue on a cheap HTPC build

A6-5400k
MSI a68hm grenade motherboard

Core temp reads 0?

Hwmoniter has same times you mentioned which math my bios CPU and motherboard temps, but the package on CPU is reading up to 90c under load.

My idea is that it's reading the PSU somehow. It's the only thing hot at all in my system. Everything else is cold.
But definitely warm air coming out of my PSU (EVGA 500w)

Sorry to reply to such an old post.
Can't find any answers.

I don't have corrected unlocking option which many said was an issue and took everything back to base and still nothing.
I did find that the readings in hwmoniter for tempin0, 1, and 2 seem to be my cores and motherboard because they match my bios numbers for temp.

Also. I have my fans set up through bios and did some tests for system ramping up the rpm on CPU cooler for temps and when those two temps went up my fan rpm did too. So unless the bios has it totally wrong, those are the CPU and Mobo temps in hwmonitor.

Still no other idea about that package temp under my CPU. I'm still thinking it's my psu somehow because it's the only component with heat coming off.
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What happens when you do (or run) something CPU intensive? Does the temperature go above 0?
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http://www.tomshardware.com/faq/id-2122 ... -apus.html
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AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (True Spirit 140 Direct) / Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty X470 / EVO 970 500GB + WD Blue 250GB + HDD / GPU: Dell RX 570 4GB / Mem: 2x16GB DDR4-3200 G.Skill 32GTZKW TridentZ - 32GB total / PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W
NAS:
Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.3GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / 2x Inland Pro 120GB + HDDs / GPU: ATi Mach64 VT2 / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 8GBXL RipJawsX - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W.
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When I first open core temp is says like 13c but goes back down to 0? And stays there.
Does not change at all during any kind of stressing.

I can see on hwmonitor, but it's not in the right place.
I'm hw my 2 cores are tmpin0 and tmpin1 and my motherboard temp is tmpin3. But even on that program, under my CPU all it has is a package temp and that runs waaay high into the 90s during stressing.

I did an experiment and set my fans to go from 25% at 40c to 100% at 50c because if my CPU was getting that hot but fans weren't ramping up like I set them something else was wrong.
Well when I did a stress test that package temp went way up to 90 but it wasn't until my tmpin0 and tmpin1 went above 40 that my fans started ramping up and we're at 100% by the time I was at 50c.

So I figured out that the package temp wasn't my CPU.
Those tmpin ones are. The only component having heat was my psu, so I'm guessing that package temp was somehow the temp of my psu.

As far as core temp, after the initial blip up to around 13c when I start it up, it pretty much stays at 0? And sometimes goes to 1 or 2.


Either way both programs are wrong and I still need to find out what's running at 90c in the system or if it's just a mess up or combo of temps adding together or what

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hwmonitor should have a Core #1 - Core #4 section, under the 'Processor name' label.
What does it say? Anyway if Core Temp registers temperature in the beginning then I don't think there's much that can be done.
Main rig:
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (True Spirit 140 Direct) / Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty X470 / EVO 970 500GB + WD Blue 250GB + HDD / GPU: Dell RX 570 4GB / Mem: 2x16GB DDR4-3200 G.Skill 32GTZKW TridentZ - 32GB total / PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W
NAS:
Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.3GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / 2x Inland Pro 120GB + HDDs / GPU: ATi Mach64 VT2 / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 8GBXL RipJawsX - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W.
Secondary rigs:
Core i3 7130U / MiniPC / SanDisk SDSSDP-128G / GPU: Intel HD 620 / Mem: 1x8GB DDR3L-1600
Xeon X3430 2.40GHz @ 3.06GHz or Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ 4.0GHz (Freezer 7 Pro) / Mobo: MSI H55M-ED55 / PNY CS1111 240GB / GPU: ATI FirePro V3800 / Mem: 4x2GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBRL RipJaws - 8GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W
AMD Phenom II X4 B93 / Mobo: ASUS M2A-VM / GPU: ATI Radeon Xpress X1250 / Crucial M4 120GB / Mem: 2x2GB DDR2-800 - 4GB total / PSU: Antec 380W.

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No only a package temp on hwmonitor. Who knows what that is.

And core temp doesn't register a temp. Just flicks up to between 5-13c on startup then goes down to 0?.
Literally in the .5 seconds when I open it. They all do. Then nothing.
Not sure but found out I can monitor the thermal index of the processor. Can't know the exact temp but can know when it's in its thermal range and how far below it maximum temp it is.
So not the greatest but I'll know if I'm in the safe range with amd overdrive.

But about core temp, it's not registering from the right "place" or something. Wherever it's pulling it's feed from is a null signal.

Never had an issue with any of the intel chips I've ran. This is my first (and maybe last) amd build. Just did it for a purpose specific build as a HTPC and amd was the cheapest way to go.

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