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Uninstall link doesn't belong in Start Menu

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In Windows:
1. You use the Start Menu to start programs or access things not available in programs.
1. You use Control Panel to uninstall programs.

See http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/wind ... u-overview for reinforcement, but it's been this way since at least 1995 (Windows 95).

Core Temp is violating this paradigm with its Start Menu uninstall shortcut.

Please only put a shortcut to the Core Temp program in the Start Menu. If you do this, you don't even need a Core Temp folder in the Start Menu, eliminating a "dry click".

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Re: Uninstall link doesn't belong in Start Menu

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I'm not sure why this bothers you that much.
There are plenty of software which also include an Uninstall shortcut in their start menu entry.
I just went over my programs and I can safely say that more than 50% of them have an Uninstall shortcut.
If you don't like that you can just delete it from the menu after install, I guess.

And I can not see any paradigm violations there, no where does it explicitly state an uninstall shortcut should not be included in the start menu, it's not even suggested.

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Re: Uninstall link doesn't belong in Start Menu

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The Coolest wrote:I'm not sure why this bothers you that much.
Because I don't like the clutter, confusion, and possible accidental clicks.

Per http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library ... aspx#files: "Don't put shortcuts to the following items on the Start menu: ... Program uninstallers. Users access uninstallers through the Programs control panel item."

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Fair enough.
I've implemented some of their suggestions into the installer and the changes will be available with the next release.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Re: Uninstall link doesn't belong in Start Menu

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I installed Core Temp 0.99.8.0 - 64bit. I have no entries in either my Start menu or Add/Remove Programs in Control Panel.

Win 7 Home Premium SP1 on an HP Pavilion dv6 notebook with an Intel Core i5 M460 quad core processor at 2.53GHz and 8GB RAM.

Should I be concerned? Did I install incorrectly? How do I know when there are updates to the program?

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- How did you install it? By the installer or did you get the standalone ZIP file? The ZIP is a simple archive, therefore it doesn't install anything.
- No need to be concerned, it's a simple recognition problem, which will be fixed in the next release. Other than that, the rest of the information is accurate.
- Regarding updates, right now the best way to keep up to date with Core Temp is through its Facebook page.
Main rig:
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (True Spirit 140 Direct) / Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty X470 / EVO 970 500GB + WD Blue 250GB + HDD / GPU: Dell RX 570 4GB / Mem: 2x16GB DDR4-3200 G.Skill 32GTZKW TridentZ - 32GB total / PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W
NAS:
Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.3GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / 2x Inland Pro 120GB + HDDs / GPU: ATi Mach64 VT2 / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 8GBXL RipJawsX - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W.
Secondary rigs:
Core i3 7130U / MiniPC / SanDisk SDSSDP-128G / GPU: Intel HD 620 / Mem: 1x8GB DDR3L-1600
Xeon X3430 2.40GHz @ 3.06GHz or Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ 4.0GHz (Freezer 7 Pro) / Mobo: MSI H55M-ED55 / PNY CS1111 240GB / GPU: ATI FirePro V3800 / Mem: 4x2GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBRL RipJaws - 8GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W
AMD Phenom II X4 B93 / Mobo: ASUS M2A-VM / GPU: ATI Radeon Xpress X1250 / Crucial M4 120GB / Mem: 2x2GB DDR2-800 - 4GB total / PSU: Antec 380W.

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Re: Uninstall link doesn't belong in Start Menu

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The Coolest wrote:- How did you install it? By the installer or did you get the standalone ZIP file? The ZIP is a simple archive, therefore it doesn't install anything.
- No need to be concerned, it's a simple recognition problem, which will be fixed in the next release. Other than that, the rest of the information is accurate.
- Regarding updates, right now the best way to keep up to date with Core Temp is through its Facebook page.
I have reinstalled using the installer. I had 99.7.3 which I uninstalled and deleted with some difficulty. I had to delete some items manually; no big deal. I am now running 99.8. 8)

I have liked the FB page and I will check periodically for updates. Hopefully, an update will make it possible to accurately track all 4 cores in my Intel Mobile i5 540M processor. HOWEVER, I noticed that while the Core Temp window indicates I have a Mobile Intel Core i5 540M; I actually have an i5 460M. :roll:

Thanks for your work; a donation will be forthcoming. :wink:

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Re: Uninstall link doesn't belong in Start Menu

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Glad to hear that you sorted everything out.

Your processor is a dual core with hyperthreading, making it appear to the OS as if it is a quad core CPU. So as I've mentioned already, the only issue with 0.99.8 is the incorrect model number.
Main rig:
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (True Spirit 140 Direct) / Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty X470 / EVO 970 500GB + WD Blue 250GB + HDD / GPU: Dell RX 570 4GB / Mem: 2x16GB DDR4-3200 G.Skill 32GTZKW TridentZ - 32GB total / PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W
NAS:
Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.3GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / 2x Inland Pro 120GB + HDDs / GPU: ATi Mach64 VT2 / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 8GBXL RipJawsX - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W.
Secondary rigs:
Core i3 7130U / MiniPC / SanDisk SDSSDP-128G / GPU: Intel HD 620 / Mem: 1x8GB DDR3L-1600
Xeon X3430 2.40GHz @ 3.06GHz or Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ 4.0GHz (Freezer 7 Pro) / Mobo: MSI H55M-ED55 / PNY CS1111 240GB / GPU: ATI FirePro V3800 / Mem: 4x2GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBRL RipJaws - 8GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W
AMD Phenom II X4 B93 / Mobo: ASUS M2A-VM / GPU: ATI Radeon Xpress X1250 / Crucial M4 120GB / Mem: 2x2GB DDR2-800 - 4GB total / PSU: Antec 380W.

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Re: Uninstall link doesn't belong in Start Menu

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OK, thanks for everything! :D

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