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E8500 wrong temperatures

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Hi,
I just installed Core Temp 0.99.4 to get info on my G15 keyboard LD. And it works almost good.
The display on the keyboard displays well, but the temperatures are wrong. Temperatures are 37 /42 celcius (core 0 / 1, idle and stressed makes no difference), while Gigabytes EasyTune comes with temperatures from 15 (idle) to 25 celcius (stressed).
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E8500 (standard clocked) with Scythe Mugen cooler
Gigabyte X48-DS4
8 Gb OCZ platinum PC2 8500
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Soundblaster X-Fi extreme Gamer

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45nm Intel CPUs have a problematic DTS, where temperatures below a certain point will not be reported.
This is called a sticky sensor syndrome. There's no fix for that.
If you let your CPU reach higher temperature, you'll see that the core temps will start moving upwards.
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sstaats wrote:Hi,
I just installed Core Temp 0.99.4 to get info on my G15 keyboard LD. And it works almost good.
The display on the keyboard displays well, but the temperatures are wrong. Temperatures are 37 /42 celcius (core 0 / 1, idle and stressed makes no difference), while Gigabytes EasyTune comes with temperatures from 15 (idle) to 25 celcius (stressed).
Always remember one thing - with a purely aircooled/fancooled computer, the temperature of any of the cores (or any piece of hardware for that matter) even in idle state cannot get below the temperature of the room the computer is located in. That's physically impossible (laws of thermodynamics). Usually it's always at least a few degrees above room temperature.

Any program that shows a temperature below room temperature is therefore showing a wrong (too low) temperature.

15 degrees idle is therefore impossible unless you have a room temperature below that (which is very unusual), or the air intake of the computer is connected to another room or whatever that delivers air with a temperature below that.

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Re: E8500 wrong temperatures

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rado wrote:
sstaats wrote:Hi,
I just installed Core Temp 0.99.4 to get info on my G15 keyboard LD. And it works almost good.
The display on the keyboard displays well, but the temperatures are wrong. Temperatures are 37 /42 celcius (core 0 / 1, idle and stressed makes no difference), while Gigabytes EasyTune comes with temperatures from 15 (idle) to 25 celcius (stressed).
Always remember one thing - with a purely aircooled/fancooled computer, the temperature of any of the cores (or any piece of hardware for that matter) even in idle state cannot get below the temperature of the room the computer is located in. That's physically impossible (laws of thermodynamics). Usually it's always at least a few degrees above room temperature.

Any program that shows a temperature below room temperature is therefore showing a wrong (too low) temperature.

15 degrees idle is therefore impossible unless you have a room temperature below that (which is very unusual), or the air intake of the computer is connected to another room or whatever that delivers air with a temperature below that.
Rado,
the room temperature is low, and the PC gets its air from a cold corner. The temperature from EasyTune matches the BIOS values.
BTW: Getting the intake air from somewhere else seams a good idea.

@ admin: Why can EasyTune get another temp than Core Temp?

tnx for the reaction,
Stephan.

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Because Core Temp is designed to read temperature directly from the processor while the BIOS and EasyTune rely on the sensor that's integrated into the motherboard.
Main rig:
AMD Ryzen 9 5950X (True Spirit 140 Direct) / Mobo: Asrock Fatal1ty X470 / EVO 970 500GB + WD Blue 250GB + HDD / GPU: Dell RX 570 4GB / Mem: 2x16GB DDR4-3200 G.Skill 32GTZKW TridentZ - 32GB total / PSU: Seasonic Prime Ultra Gold 650W
NAS:
Core i7 2600K 3.4GHz @ 4.3GHz (Scythe Mugen2) / Mobo: Biostar TP67XE / 2x Inland Pro 120GB + HDDs / GPU: ATi Mach64 VT2 / Mem: 4x4GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 8GBXL RipJawsX - 16GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W.
Secondary rigs:
Core i3 7130U / MiniPC / SanDisk SDSSDP-128G / GPU: Intel HD 620 / Mem: 1x8GB DDR3L-1600
Xeon X3430 2.40GHz @ 3.06GHz or Core i3 540 3.06GHz @ 4.0GHz (Freezer 7 Pro) / Mobo: MSI H55M-ED55 / PNY CS1111 240GB / GPU: ATI FirePro V3800 / Mem: 4x2GB DDR3-1600 G.Skill 4GBRL RipJaws - 8GB total / PSU: Seasonic S12II 620W
AMD Phenom II X4 B93 / Mobo: ASUS M2A-VM / GPU: ATI Radeon Xpress X1250 / Crucial M4 120GB / Mem: 2x2GB DDR2-800 - 4GB total / PSU: Antec 380W.

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The Coolest wrote:Because Core Temp is designed to read temperature directly from the processor while the BIOS and EasyTune rely on the sensor that's integrated into the motherboard.
OK tnx.

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