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X2 3800+
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:14 pm
by MrPickins
I have no idea whether or not this is a good MaxTCase or not.
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:43 am
by jcy0001
That must be good coz its definetly better than mine:) unless mine really sucks
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2500.82 (250.08 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 4:53 am
by The Coolest
67C is higher than average I believe. The highest I've seen it go is 71C on some chips, they were also some crazy clockers.
3800 X2 Manchester
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 10:09 pm
by 4Qman
Not sure if this is good for a E-4 Stepping.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 11:22 pm
by The Coolest
That is a decent TCaseMax (This is the correct term, I've also changed the name of the program to fix that mistake I've made).
Unless you have PC2700 RAM, why would you run your RAM at a divider?
Ram ?
Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:41 am
by 4Qman
Yeah ive had a major epic with my ram which all ill say is that its not alive
after a few too many volts.lol
Im using 2x512PC3200 and 2x256Mb PC2700, all old stuff which i had spare untill my OCZ PC4800 TCCD Plats and 2x512 Mushkin Redline Extreme arive.
Then ill just be troubled with what ram to actually use.
Ive had this 3800X2 at 2.7Ghz Dual Prime 12Hr+ Stable. I wasnt too sure how it compared to other E-4 Manchester core as i noticed the Toledo had a higher MaxTCase.
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:01 am
by masterallen
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.14
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2200.14 (220.01 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C
TDP: 59.4 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83
TCaseMax Stats for 3800+
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:40 am
by Guest
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.14
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2010.00 (201.00 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 53.1 Watts
In simple terms, what does this mean in terms of overclocking? I read the description a few times and I still am not sure I understand the correlation between or the definitions of TCaseMax and TDP with respect to overclocking.
Is this right?
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2005 11:12 am
by Michael Malis
If you take the thermal rating of the CPU (TCaseMax) and subtract the ambient temperature, you get the temperature delta between the chip at its highest temperature rating and the air temperature. Then you divide that delta by the thermal resistance of the case to ambient in order to get the TDP. The TDP is then the highest power you can maintain with that particular chip's thermal resistance with a particular ambient temperature and that chip's particular TCaseMax. Thermal power is proportional to clock speed.
TDP = (TCaseMax - Ambient) / Thermal Resistance
So, if TCaseMax goes up, TDP goes up, and clock speeds can go up.
Also, if either ambient temperature or thermal resistance go down, TDP goes up and thus also clock speed may increase.
For anyone who knows more about this than me, feel free to correct anything I have misinterpreted as this is the first time I have seen any of this stuff.
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.14
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2010.00 (201.00 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 59C
TDP: 53.1 Watts
Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:18 am
by mp
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2004.62 (200.46 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 61C
Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:10 pm
by ting
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2500.14 (250.01 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 71.9 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83
So this result means that this chip is a good overclokker then?
Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 5:59 pm
by The Coolest
Yup, it should be pretty good
Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 3:56 pm
by sina
how about this??your comment, please!!!
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 5:13 pm
by The Coolest
That's not bad at all, but I'm sure you can go higher
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:43 am
by unknown
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2600.29 (260.03 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83
)))) with aircooling
heres mine
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:19 pm
by davidca96
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2600.05 (260.01 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:23 pm
by davidca96
Oops sorry, was with the older version, heres 1.18:
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
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CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2600.02 (260.00 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 65C
TDP: 71.9 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:29 pm
by Pingo68
Hi.
Here's mine:
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:47 pm
by davidca96
Great OC pingo
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:56 pm
by Pingo68
davidca96 wrote:Great OC pingo
Thanks
I use a AsRock 939SLI-eSATA2 mobo on this processor. But max vcore on this mobo are low, only 1.4v. Maybe I'll have to buy a new mobo, ie. DFI LanParty UT nF4 ULTRA-D, because I need more vcore for higher clock
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:10 am
by The Coolest
It is possible that there is an easy mod for the mobo that will get you upto 1.5 - 1.55v
so search google for a "vmod for AsRock 939SLI-eSATA2" or something similar
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:51 pm
by dropadrop
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AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2250.00 (250.00 x 9.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 67C
TDP: 78.1 Watts
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Seems this would have good overclocking potential, but the problem is it runs fairly hot. It's prime stable (8 hours) up to 2550 with stock vcore, but 2600 fails the other core.
For my configuration I would have prefered something cooler, my day to day speed is 9*250 with 1.2 vcore.
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:37 pm
by Guest
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2499.99 (250.00 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83
Runs @ 52 C full load (stock cooler
), 1,375 V, ASUS Q-FAN @ 52 C, posted @ 2700 mhz.
Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 6:08 pm
by BGT
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: 3, Stepping: 2
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 23, Stepping: 2
CPUID String: 20F32
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Toledo)
CPU Speed: 2010.30 (201.03 x 10.0)
Revision: JH9-E6
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.300v
Maximum Case Temperature = 69C
TDP: 84.4 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:45 pm
by Guest
AMD64 TCaseMax - v1.18
----------------------
CPU Information (CPU #1):
Standard CPUID: Family: F, Model: B, Stepping: 1
Extended CPUID: Family: F, Model: 2B, Stepping: 1
CPUID String: 20FB1
Processor APIC: 0
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ (Manchester)
CPU Speed: 2400.14 (240.01 x 10.0)
Revision: BH9-E4
Platform: Socket 939
Startup VCore: 1.350v
Maximum Case Temperature = 63C
TDP: 65.6 Watts
Written by: Arthur Liberman.
Idea by: Petr Koc.
More info at:
http://www.thecoolest.zerobrains.com/fo ... c.php?t=83
